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John's assassination (8 December 1980)
23 April 2018
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Timothy said
I always remind myself that the jerk traveled to kill John. He went out of his way to find him. If John lived in London, or Ireland, or wherever, that's where the jerk was going to go.

Afraid I disagree with that. He had a list of possible targets. One of the reasons he settled on John was location as it didn't involve him leaving the US - where despite a history of mental illness, he was still able to legally buy a gun (a situation that all these years later America has done little to prevent). Had John lived in London, Ireland, or one of many other countries, the man with the gun would have had problems obtaining a gun, and certainly couldn't have done so legally; nor does it seem to me that he would have changed his method, and maybe settled for a knife. Too hands on, in my opinion.

As to the use of his name, I use it when necessary, but avoid it whenever possible. Here I see no need to repeat his name, given him that fame he sought, as we all know the name. In less-informed environments though, if someone asks who shot John Lennon , I'm not going to say, "the jerk of all jerks," as that wouldn't really answer the question.

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The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

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Found out yesterday about Robert Morgan, who could've taken a photo of John after he was shot. He chose not to and painted a picture instead. I never knew.

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He says that John " was lying by the open rear door." I always thought he was shot once he entered the hallway and that he could walk at least until (more or less) where the first sign is in the picture below

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According to every report I have ever read, John was shot as he made his way into the West 72nd Street entrance into the Dakota, and managed to make it up the five steps into the security/reception room where he collapsed. No report I have ever seen has John on the ground barely out of the limo.

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Zig said

mja6758 said

Zig said

mja6758 said

I'm also someone who calls him "him" or "he" unless the conversation dictates otherwise.

My term is "the a_ _hole in the orange jump suit".

I can go for that. I also like the nickname he was given in his teens and hated so much, "Nemo", the Latin word meaning "no man" or "no one".

 

How appropriate - Nemo also wears an orange jump suit.

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